Amber Heard told Savannah Guthrie of TODAY that she is afraid of being sued by Depp again.
Amber Heard has spoken up for the first time since a Virginia jury ruled in her ex-husband Johnny Depp’s favor in the couple’s high-profile defamation case.
Heard appeared on TODAY, where she spoke with journalist Savannah Guthrie in a two-part interview that aired on June 14th and 15th and will be available to stream on Peacock beginning June 16th.
The discussion covered a wide range of issues, including how she expects to live now that the trial is over and how she feels about Depp in the aftermath.
Heard also expressed anxiety about being sued by Depp again, which aligns with analyses wondering whether the outcome of the defamation trial will deter survivors of abuse from seeking justice.
This lawsuit stemmed from an article Heard published in 2018, in which Amber Heard claimed she “become a public figure symbolizing domestic abuse.”
“I assumed that my right to speak was unassailable. “I’m afraid that no matter what I do, say, or how I say it, every step I take will present another potential for this sort of silence, which is,
I think, what a defamation case is supposed to achieve,” Heard said. “It’s supposed to take your voice,” says the narrator.
According to Heard, social media played a significant impact in the trial’s conclusion.
During the trial, pro-Depp content flooded social media platforms like TikTok, and Heard stated that she believed this played a factor in his win.
“Even if you believe I’m deserving of all this anger and hostility, even if you believe I’m lying, you couldn’t tell me–look me in the eye and tell me–that you think there’s been a fair portrayal on social media,” Heard told Guthrie. “You can’t tell me you think this is a fair situation.”
One of Heard’s lawyers, Elaine Charlson Bredehoft, told TODAY that she believed her client was “demonized” publicly throughout the trial, blaming some of it on the way the trial was covered and discussed on social media.
In terms of extraordinary visibility and pure public spectacle, Bredehoft compared the proceedings to “the Roman Colosseum.” Jurors in Heard’s case were told not to watch the coverage of the case, but they were not sequestered, which drew significant criticism from the legal profession.
Heard “[stands] by every word” of her testimony, despite the verdict.
Guthrie mentioned transcripts in which Heard discussed being violent towards Depp, and asked whether Depp was lying when he stated he “never” hit her during the interview’s initial portion.
“As I testified on the stand about this,” Heard said, “when your life is at stake, not only will you take the responsibility for things that you shouldn’t take the blame for, but you will also take the blame for things that you shouldn’t take the blame for.”
But, psychologically, emotionally, and physically, when you’re in an abusive relationship, you don’t have the resources that, say, you or I possess, with the luxury of saying, ‘Hey, this is black and white.’
“Tell the world, Johnny Depp, ‘I, a man, am a victim of domestic abuse,'” Guthrie stated in another excerpt from the transcripts, claiming Heard was “taunting” Depp by adding, “Tell the world, Johnny Depp, ‘I, a man, am a victim of domestic violence.”
Heard stated that a single section like that lacked context and was “not reflective of even the two or three hours from which those segments are [extracted].”
“The First Amendment doesn’t protect lies that amount to defamation,” Guthrie remarked, focusing on the defamation side of the trial and whether Heard was telling the truth.
“I will stand by every word of my testimony till the day I die,” Heard stated. “I’ve made numerous errors. There were numerous errors. But I’ve always been honest.”
There was a discussion on the “ideal victim” fallacy.
The concept of the “ideal victim,” which holds that an accuser must match certain societal norms in order for their claims to be taken seriously, has dominated much of the trial coverage.
In the interview, Heard admitted that negative impressions of her influenced not only the social media conversation surrounding the trial but also Depp’s legal approach.
“I’m not a good victim, I understand,” Amber Heard says “she stated “I’m not a particularly likeable victim, nor am I an ideal victim. ”
However, when I testified, I requested that the jury see me and hear his own comments, which was a promise to do so,” Heard told TODAY.
Alexandra Brodsky, a civil rights attorney, told TIME, “They discredited Heard based on actions that had nothing to do with whether she was molested or not.”
Heard was chastised for her behavior on the stand (one of Depp’s lawyers mockingly said she provided “the performance of a lifetime”), as well as in the past, including a 2009 encounter with another ex,
Tasya Van Ree, which Heard claimed Depp’s team had planted in the media. (In a 2016 statement, Van Ree supported Heard, saying she was “wrongfully charged for an incident that was misconstrued and over-sensationalized…”)
Depp’s legal team claimed that Heard was the aggressor toward her then-husband, and while Heard admitted to being physical with Depp, she stated she did so only after he initiated.
“I’ve never had to start it.” It prompted a response from me. “You have to adapt when you’re living in a violent environment and it becomes normal, as I testified,” Amber Heard said.
Heard claims to still have “love” and “no ill will” for Depp, as well as no hostility for the jurors.
In one widely circulated segment of the conversation, Heard professed pity for her ex-husband. Guthrie brought up a statement Heard made at the start of the trial in which she said she “still [had] love for Johnny,” and asked if she still did.
“I’m in love with him.” I adored him and tried everything I could to make a badly broken relationship work, but I couldn’t. “I have no ill will or nasty feelings toward him,” she told Guthrie.
Heard further speculated that many people who have been in love may connect to that lasting sense, despite their relationship’s clearly bad turn.
She stated that she did not want Depp to be “canceled,” which was part of the motivation for not mentioning him explicitly in the op-ed piece on which the lawsuit was based.
When asked how she felt about the jury, Heard stated that she did not hold them responsible for the trial’s outcome, though she continued to imply that their decision was influenced by outside forces.
“I am aware of the situation. “He’s a well-liked persona, and people believe they know who he is,” she explained.
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